{"id":33,"date":"2007-07-26T14:22:25","date_gmt":"2007-07-26T14:22:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/?p=33"},"modified":"2008-01-24T14:14:36","modified_gmt":"2008-01-24T14:14:36","slug":"m11-wild-duck-clsuter-m16-eagle-nebula","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/?p=33","title":{"rendered":"M11 (Wild Duck Cluster), M16 (Eagle Nebula)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A clear night, and I wasnt going to waste it. A few (predicted) clouds as the sky was darkening:<\/p>\n<p>Jupiter top left, Antares below left, moon to right<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/images\/misc\/20070724_moon_jupiter_antares.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Once this band had passed, I powered on and did the usual alignment dance for 20 minutes or so.<\/p>\n<p>First target, M11, the wild Duck Cluster.<\/p>\n<p>OTA: NexStar 8 GPS @ f\/10<br \/>\nGuiding: OAG + PHD + DSI-C<br \/>\nImages: Canon 350D, 10 x 60s @ ISO800 (+5 darks) via DSLRFocus<br \/>\nProcessing: DeepSkyStacker, Photoshop CS + Noel&#8217;s AstroTools<br \/>\nNote: Last time I tried imaging this, I also got &#8220;redish&#8221; background stars. No idea why, might be light pollution but not 100% sure<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/images\/messier\/m11_20070724.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Next, the tricky one, that went bad, but I learned a lot from it &#8211; M16, Eagle Nebula.<\/p>\n<p>Being an emission neb meant that it has plenty of Ha&#8230; but my 350D is *UNMODDED* and so most of the Ha is blocked by the inbuilt Canon filter. Even so, I needed to have a go, &#8220;just to see&#8221; what I could manage. I knew I had to get as much data as possible because of the Canon filter issue, and so used my CLS filter to reduce the effect of LP&#8230;. but in the end I over did the exposure time, and the subs and darks started to show a lot of random hot pixels when processed, which destroyed the stacking process. Still, I managed to salvage a final image from it, and learned something new&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Here is a rescaled (but unprocess) RAW:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/images\/messier\/m16_20070724_raw.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If I do a basic curves on it, you can start to see the hot pixels starting to create a lot of noise in the darker areas (well, everywhere actually)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/images\/messier\/m16_20070724_dss_curves.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>After imaging for nearly an hour (plus the darks), I just had to salvage something from the subs, so here is what I managed to retrieve (no darks, they just made things worse)<\/p>\n<p>OTA: NexStar 8 GPS @ f\/10<br \/>\nGuiding: OAG + PHD + DSI-C<br \/>\nImages: Canon 350D, 6 x 600s @ ISO800 (no darks) via DSLRFocus<br \/>\nProcessing: DeepSkyStacker, Photoshop CS + Noel&#8217;s AstroTools<br \/>\nNote: No Darks, so Amp glow quite prominant in lower right. Bright red &#8220;hot pixel&#8221; upper right quarter.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/images\/messier\/m16_20070724_cls.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The clouds rolled in across the horizon as the last light was being taken, so it was time to pack up while I left the Canon taking the 10 minute darks. I will definitely be back for this fantastic Nebula, more subs, but (and a first for me) shorter exposures.<\/p>\n<p>Things learned last night:<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Emission Nebs can be captured on unmodded Canons&#8230; just!<br \/>\n&#8211; 10 min subs is too much for ISO800<br \/>\n&#8211; The CLS filter effectively halves the amount of light coming through, but it does remove the LP<br \/>\n&#8211; My autoguiding works fine<br \/>\n&#8211; My polar align routine seems ok (no field rotation in the images that I can see)<br \/>\n&#8211; Need &#8220;smoother&#8221; darker subs that I can stretch, rather than &#8220;brighter&#8221; noisey subs that just get even more noisey as they get processed<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A clear night, and I wasnt going to waste it. A few (predicted) clouds as the sky was darkening: Jupiter top left, Antares below left, moon to right Once this band had passed, I powered on and did the usual alignment dance for 20 minutes or so. First target, M11, the wild Duck Cluster. OTA: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=33"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=33"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=33"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.steves-astro.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=33"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}